here is something ta dana bash got, where she said, republican told her, some senate democrats have discussed holding on on bringing up a proposal until the final final days of 2012, which we happen to be in at the moment. to increase pressure on republicans to support avoiding higher taxes on everyone due to the fiscal cliff. >> the clock is running down. now is the moment. and all i can tell you, we have had various groups, the gang of six, the gang of eight. people meeting, talking, i've had multiple conversations since getting back yesterday. i just don't believe it in the senate. i absolute believe if it were up to the senate democrats and republicans, we would get this done. the problem is, unfortunately, with the extreme element insist the house, for whatever reason the speaker won't act. even when something like the reform farm bill to eliminate subsidies which everybody agree should be eliminated. we can't get them to that i that out. so frustrating that we send things over that are bipartisan that do make cuts and to ask those at the top to pay a little more to help out and it keeps